*sulks off*

Anyway, I think the point of these guys is they like to rely on more stable weapons.
So nothing really experimental.

Uh... uhm... man, now I need to look this up. Because it doesn't sound right that one atom of antimatter could wipe out a country, since one particle of antimatter should only destroy one particle of matter. But I don't know, so I can't really level a proper argument.



What he said.


It does on this one. I'm both an arm-chair gun nut AND an arm-chair physicist. Accuracy in both departments means a lot to me. Not that I'm not willing to take liberties for the sake of fun.

What happens when antimatter hits matter (If I got this right that is) it that both the matter and the antimatter turn into pure energy which would react violently, effectively blowing up. I am not an expert and don't claim the above to be right, but I believe that is what he meant

Ooh, nice new guns.

If we assume antimatter/matter explosions convert all matter and antimatter to energy, you would get MC2 joules of energy from the explosion, and I believe it would be slightly difficult to contain more than a few atoms of antimatter in a hand-held unit for very long.
Science time, I guess. Shrunk for those who don't care enough.

The mass of one atom of hydrogen is 1.67E-24 g, and I would assume antihydrogen weighs the same amount (not sure if it would be negative or not). So, the energy released from one antihydrogen and one hydrogen would be (3.34E-24 * 3E16), or 1E-7 J. For comparison's sake, a 45g bullet traveling at 908m/s has about 18,942 J of energy.
However, if you had a mole of antihydrogen in that container, which weighs 1.008 g, the energy released from the entire explosion would be 6.03E16 J, or in expanded form, 60,300,000,000,000,000 J.
To get the exact same amount of energy from the antihydrogen and hydrogen as the rifle bullet travelling at 908m/s, you would need 6.31E-13 g of antihydrogen and hydrogen.

DarkStorm? :C
I prefered DarKlones, anyway, the new 'vehicle' looks nice.
It's a pod isn't it??

Sweet, looks cool, DLed

So will there be a mech in this iteration or perhaps a pimped out battle armor dude?

why the **** have i not gotten this yet???

*dl*

it rocks. my socks.
i love it

To the antimatter discussion:



So yeah, powerful stuff. And probably necessary if we ever want to do the whole interstellar travel thing with reasonable travel times. Apparently, a matter/antimatter reaction releases 100% of the potential energy of the matter involved, whereas the most powerful nuclear reactions we can come up with today is, like, 0.7%.

So, its honestly not hard to imagine that in a setting like that of CC, where interstellar travel is normal, matter/antimatter reactions, or something equally powerful, are being used to propel ships. Which means there is also the capability for matter/antimatter weapons. Basically, you end up with Star Trek.

This could be done in two ways. One, antimatter is either produced by advanced and efficient particle accelerators, or collected from natural places, like Earth's own magnetic field or the rings of gas giants. Then its stored in some manner, probably utilizing magnetic fields, so it can be placed on a ship to be used as fuel, or in a weapon as an explosive. The second way would be to put some kind of compact particle accelerator right on a ship, so it can produce antimatter and use it for thrust and weapons all at the same time. This would all require VERY sophisticated technology, that could not only create antimatter economically (right now, it takes billions of dollars just to produce a small fraction of a gram of antimatter), but also contain it indefinitely without losing it. Of course, its the distant future, so we can assume they've come up with ways to do all that.

I assume this sort of thing would still be limited to rather large rigs and machines, though. So I doubt infantry will be carrying around antimatter rifles or something, not just for that reason, but also because any sort of antimatter weapon couldn't result in anything less than an all-encompassing explosion. It would be used in long-range missiles and bombs.

YAY UPDATE! Wait... whats with the rename!? I loved darklones! :< ah well going to try the new stuff now

EDIT: I LOVE THAT MOTAR

Atleast reduce it to 40 or 45 since it makes the battle rifle look like crap. Higher firerate, more ammo, cheaper, smaller and decent power... either that or pimp the rifle atleast for the sake of gameplay, with putting realism to the side this time.

Why does the revolver have 7 bullets?

Perhaps the rifle could be respec'd to use a round similar to the .50 caliber Beowulf rifle round?
Either add to the mass and speed of the round, or increase the accuracy.

The battle rifle penetrates better and is also way more accurate. If you're going for headshots, the battle rifle is easily the superior of the two. Plus, the battle rifle is far from finished. The amount of accessories and options you'll get with that thing as soon as I get Lua power will be extensive. Not only will there be selective fire (switching between full auto and semi-auto), the possible accessories for it will include various scopes, a laser pointer, an under-slung grenade launcher, and an under-slung shotgun. Not only will the rifle itself be able to use different kinds of ammo, like armor-piercing, incendiary, and explosive, but the under-slung weapons will also be able to use the same different kinds of ammo that their larger full-weapon cousins can use. The battle rifle will be a ridiculously customizable weapon.

The PDW will probably be able to have a silencer, a laser pointer, and maybe different kinds of ammo. But nothing will fix its spray or increase its sight range, or even give it extra attack options. Its purely a close-rang spray-and-pray weapon. Also, the PDW bullets tend to bounce off of tougher armor, like the Crobos.


Because the bullets aren't actually that big, so it can fit 7 in the chamber.